Thursday, April 07, 2011

Nomadic Existence: In Memoriam, Farley Granger, 1925-2011; Deanna Durbin


From this week's issue of Nomad Wide Screen, an excerpt from my tribute to the late Farley Granger, consisting of a look at the two films he made with Alfred Hitchcock: the sublime Strangers on a Train and the severely underrated Rope.


Rope...is a lot better than it’s usually given credit for being. Rather than being just stagey, it plays a long game with the very notion of staginess, as the camera forces the audience to look at things they might not even notice as a play progressed in a theater. In one extraordinary instance, the lens stays trained on the maid who’s tidying up the chest that unbeknownst to her holds the dead body. The camera watches her clear the dishes from this macabre buffet table, blow out the candles, take away the tablecloth and prepare, perhaps, to open the chest, while just out of sight range, we hear the others discussing the dead man’s whereabouts.

The movie is based on the Leopold and Loeb case, in which two young men in Chicago murdered a 14-year-old boy to demonstrate their intellectual superiority via a "perfect crime." Granger, who at age 22 had already embarked on what would be a lifelong pursuit of both men and women, had no such hesitation. He later said he always considered himself a working actor, not a star; Granger didn’t fear the homoerotic subtext of either of the films he did for Hitchcock.

Rope posits a classic case of criminal folie à deux, with Brandon (John Dall) as the more dominant partner, but it’s far too simple to see Phillip (Granger) as a mere pawn, and that isn’t the way Granger plays it. After all, it is Phillip who is strangling their friend in the opening sequence, not Brandon. 
Sure, Phillip is weak, but weak is never synonymous with powerless. Instead, Phillip uses his weakness to get what he really wants, which is to get caught.



That desire is there in his curt “Don’t” when Brandon tries to switch on the light after the murder. And it’s even more apparent when amateur psychic Constance Collier, when asked how Phillip’s piano concert will go, tells him “these hands will bring you great fame” — Phillip’s expression is not one of fear, but rather remorse. The steadily rising hysteria of Phillip’s behavior is such that he’d have to be an idiot not to know that he’s giving the game away, and Phillip is no idiot. He is working toward his goal, using the weak person’s tools of manipulation and provocation.



Viewed this way, Granger’s most famous moment in the movie – when James Stewart’s ex-headmaster questions Granger and his more domineering partner in crime – takes on a whole different aspect. Granger isn’t just playing abject fear, he’s also playing regret and self-loathing. “Who’s the cat, and who’s the mouse?” he asks; in terms of who’s really manipulating the conversation, and ensuring that Stewart will become even more suspicious, the cat could well be Granger himself. When Granger completely cracks at the end and threatens Dall with a gun, he plays the action with less agitation, not more — he’s coming closer to his desire at last.




From the March 23 edition, my appreciation of Deanna Durbin in Three Smart Girls and Lady on a Train:


She was about 15 when Three Smart Girls came out, and her years in girlish roles were already numbered. She made the transition to adult roles — albeit winsome, charming adult roles — without much trouble, receiving her first screen kiss from Robert Stack in First Love in 1939. By the time she made Lady on a Train, in 1945, she had already tried, and failed, to turn around her image with Robert Siodmak’s Christmas Holiday (1944), a fervidly sexed-up noir in which she played a barely disguised prostitute and sang a dirgelike version of “Always.” Despite the film’s success, Universal immediately returned to the old formulas, and by most accounts it was then that Durbin lost whatever interest in Hollywood she’d ever had.

Lady on a Train, however, is a highly engaging movie. Usually described as a whodunit, it’s actually more of a farce, the presence of Edward Everett Horton being a huge tip-off. Durbin plays Nikki Collins, a San Francisco heiress who witnesses a murder as her train pulls into Grand Central. With logic common to Durbin plots, Nikki drafts her favorite mystery author (David Bruce) to help her track down the killer. It is the sort of movie where a single conk on the head knocks a man out cold, only to have him revive minutes later, perfectly able to say something funny. Dan Duryea gets to chase Durbin in a menacing fashion, and Ralph Bellamy shows up to fail at getting the girl. (Bellamy also gets a line toward the end that’s as clear an incest implication as I’ve heard in any movie from that era, and that was, I must say, unexpected.)

...Particularly interesting, albeit deeply strange, is the scene where she sings “Silent Night” on the telephone (the movie is set at Christmas). She lays down on the bed, her hair fanning out on the covers, and croons into the telephone, her expression and the lighting and framing no less romantic than Alice Faye singing “You’ll Never Know” on the phone in Hello, Frisco, Hello. The strangeness, however, isn’t so much that it’s a hymn; it’s that she’s singing to her father.

111 comments:

DavidEhrenstein said...

Speaking of Rope, don't miss Swoon Tom Kalin's brilliant postmodern take on L&L (with a performance by Craig Chester he says was dedicated to Bette Davis.) Tom origianlly had hoped to have clips from Rope and Compulsion playing on a TV set at L&L's apartment. But he couldn't clear the rights.

Meanwhile, here's my tribute to Farley which includes the "making of" documentary for Rope.

Laura said...

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Rope is underrated. If I remember correctly (it's been a few years since I've seen it), the distinct lack of music on the soundtrack during those famous tracking shots contributed to the realistic and claustrophobic atmosphere in that apartment. Really upped the tension.

Peter Nellhaus said...

You might just get me to watch a Deanna Durbin movie in this lifetime.

grandoldmovies said...

I always thought the homosexual subtext in ROPE could be extended to James Stewart's professor character; he played the role with a kind of suppressed, neurotic hysteria that seemed to speak volumes.

Thanks for mentioning wonderful Deanna Durbin - the plot of LADY ON A TRAIN I recall as similar to an Agatha Christie Miss Marple mystery (can't remember title, but it's about a woman witnessing a murder from a moving train - was there any influence on the Durbin film?) - Durbin's also great in IT STARTED W/EVE, which, curiously, also has a father-daughter romance subtext in her relationship w/Charles Laughton - due in large part to Laughton's robust, rambunctious performance; when he & Durbin are together, you completely forget Bob Cummings, who's supposed to supply the love interest.

Jandy said...

I definitely need a rewatch on Rope; it's been forever since I saw it, and you've highlighted a lot of nuance to Granger's performance that I'll definitely be on the look out for next time.

RE: Deanna Durbin, I'm a huge fan - I went through phase in my teens when I gobbled up everything hers I could find. Would've been when they were releasing a bunch of her films on VHS in the mid-'90s. I always found it amusing that from Three Smart Girls to Three Smart Girls Grow Up Ray Milland basically gives way to Robert Cummings (as the love interest of Durbin's sister - not the same character), and then in Dial M For Murder, Grace Kelly is cheating on Milland with Cummings. Apparently my taste in men is suspect, because I always thought Milland was much more attractive than Cummings.

I also agree with grandoldmovies - It Started With Eve is one of my favorite Durbin films. The way she and Charles Laughton (uncharacteristically sprightly) play off each other is great. Lady on a Train I love because it's such a different genre for her, and yet still allows her to use all her charm and wit. I wish she were better known today than she is. She deserves it.

The Siren said...

David, I haven't seen Swoon, but L&L remains an eternally fascinating case. I've been trying to track down Clarence Darrow's summation.

Laura, I've always thought Rope was swell on a lot of different levels. You're right about the lack of music. There's also a lot of sympathy for the victim's friends and family, particularly the father. Sometimes people have a hard time getting past Hitchcock's grim sense of humor to his humanity, which I maintain is there in all his best movies. When it isn't, you get Frenzy.

Grandoldmovies, it seems clear that Stewart's character was supposed to be gay as well, although if I recall, several participants later said they weren't sure Stewart himself realized it. That I kind of doubt because I see it in his playing, but Stewart may not have wanted to say so.

And Jandy, I am very fond of It Started With Eve, the first Durbin I ever saw and a very funny movie. I wrote it up a long while ago but the post was so haphazard I wound up taking it down.

Peter, you could do a lot worse than either Lady on a Train or It Started With Eve. Not to mention Christmas Holiday. The lady had star quality, for sure.

Rachel said...

Grandoldmovies, you may be on to something with Stewart's character in Rope though I can't help wishing it was James Mason or George Sanders in that role. Stewart has the blustering righteousness down pat, but he doesn't convince me of either his wickedness or his remorse.

In regards to Granger, though, it's the unpredictability he brings to both Hitchcocks that fascinates me. In Strangers, you see a weak man and you can't be sure just what he'll do when trapped.

There's a moment in Strangers that I love, when Bruno is teasing him that marrying the senator's daughter is a good career move and Granger's voice suddenly raises defensively, snapping back that "Marrying the senator's daughter has nothing--" before he trails off. He sounds like a schoolboy that's just been caught out and you can see his dawning awareness that Bruno's scored a hit.

The Siren said...

Rachel, Walker's performance in Strangers is so flat-out awesomely, dazzlingly superb that Granger doesn't get enough credit for how great he is as Guy. The Nomad piece goes into that, but I'm not really supposed to repost the whole thing, alas. I think Granger made the very deliberate and nervy choice to play Guy's shiftiness for all it was worth, and that's a great example.

Laura said...

Ick, Frenzy. Low point, Hitch.

Yeah, the parts with the father quietly but anxiously watching out the window for his son in Rope were touching and painful. He's a character that really cuts through the morbid wit and reminds you just how awful and pointless the murder was.

Trish said...

A completely facile observation, but I'm not a big fan of those two-tone suits from the 40s. However, Deanna's looks wonderful simply because her hair comes down to rescue the bodice from monotony. She looks magnificent...

The Siren said...

Laura, Cedric Hardwicke is so understated in Rope, and just watching him wipe off his glasses was heartbreaking. There can be a lot of pain and horror in the tiniest moments in Hitchcock.

Trish, you won't catch the Siren dismissing matters sartorial; I've banged on at great length about the significance of costuming. Deanna's suit was no doubt the last word at the time and I quite like it on her, but yeah, I'm not crazy about the high-contrast fullback-shoulders suit either, and wasn't during their 80s comeback. (And they're making a tentative reappearance as we type this.)

DavidEhrenstein said...

Clarence Darrow's summation is quoted extensiovely in Swoon. L7L were guilty of murder so Darrow was trying to saev them from the chair. His strategy? Make Homosexuality the culprit. Darrow's summation was simple: Gay = Insane. L & L got life and the gay rights movement (which was begun in the 1920's by someone few have ever heard of, a postal employee named Henry Gerber) was put back 40 years. Thanks a bunch Clarence. (Henry Gerber was fired by the post office and sent to prison for being gay.)

The Siren said...

David, that was my recollection too, although that may be too heavy a burden to place on Darrow alone; most psychologists considered it a disorder too--do you remember when the Amer Psychological Assoc. finally removed homosexuality from its list of disorders? (I don't, but it took years.) When there was a one-man show of Darrow's writings some years back with Henry Fonda they quoted his peroration against the death penalty extensively from L&L but as I recall the anti-gay stuff was jettisoned.

DavidEhrenstein said...

It was removed as "disorder" in 1973, thereby "curing" millions of people witht the stroke of a pen. Ain't Absolute Power grand?

The word "homosexuality" wasn't coined until the end of the 19th century by a Hungarian journalist (noe: NOT a doctor) named Karoly vbenkert (aka. Karl Maria von kerbeny) Armed with this word medical authorities took it up in order to find a "cause" and hence a "cure." See Jonathan "Ned" Kats's invaluable The Invention of Heterosexuality for all the details.

Marcel Proust expended an enormous amount of energy "explaining" and exploring it in A la recherche du temps perdu In fact the book's main subjects are the process of memory, the nature of love (which he regards as entirely wrapped up in jealousy), the arts (theater, painting, music) and the Dreyfus affair.

Yojimboen said...

Darrow’s Summation.

A cursory scan produced this veiled reference to L & L's “Unnatural relationship” (no doubt there’s more):

“I have discussed somewhat in detail these two boys separately. The coming together was the means of their undoing. Your Honor is familiar with the facts in reference to their association. They had a weird, almost impossible relationship. Leopold, with his obsession of the superman, had repeatedly said that Loeb was his idea of the superman. He had the attitude toward him that one has to his most devoted friend, or that a man has to a lover. Without the combination of these two nothing of this sort probably could have happened. It is not necessary for us, Your Honor, to rely upon words to prove the condition of the boys' minds, and to prove the effect of this strange and fatal relationship between these two boys.”

Yojimboen said...

For you, David: A dear friend of mine way back in the 1960s - of course he was gay and English (in Theatrical circles that used be a tautology) once opined “Hmm, ‘homosexual’, the word is half-Greek and half-Latin, no good can possibly come of it. Of course the same could be said of ‘Television’.”

DavidEhrenstein said...

HAH!

DavidEhrenstein said...

As Arthur Laurents reveals in his invaluable memoir Original Story By , Hitch wanted Cary Grant to play Rupert. But Grant turned him down -- for reasosn far too obvious to mention. So he went with Jimmy Stewart. Stewart is quite good, especially in the exchanges in which he chats about murder in a joking and off-handed way. The thing is the boys are commiting this murder as a means of "outing" Rupert. They think he's gay like they are. Stewart isn't so they were wrong. However, had Hitch got the male lead he wanted. . . .

X. Trapnel said...

Siren, you raise in an interesting point with regard to Cedric Hardwicke in Rope that is pertinent to nearly all of Hitchcock's major films and that is either ignored or treated with hostility by many critics. Most Hitchcock films include piercing moments of emotional distress and disturbance (by no means psychotic or abnormal) that we almost never see in thrillers (Five Fingers, Charade) and yet many critics insist on Hitchcock's superficiality (while allowing for his brilliance) and even sadism. Rarely have I found an attempt by a critic to define how such moments or themes form the moral core of Hitchcock's work. The idea that the "entertainment" film can sound such depths is insufficienly considered.

gmoke said...

In response to X Trapnel, "The Wrong Man" is the film in which Hitchcock makes the damage the whole point of the movie. If the old story about him being taken to the police station by his parent(s) and locked up for a little while for being "naughty" are true, this is a full and very adult look at that childhood trauma.

X. Trapnel said...

So much of the hostile criticism of Hitchcock is based on the idea that his films are closed systems for producing fear or thrills unrelated to the experience of reality, emotional, social, political. No, he is not a "humanist" filmmaker in the commonly accepted sense, still less politically engaged or modernist. why do I get a more powerful sense of human isolation in his work than in Bergman's for all the latter's nattering on about the absence of God?

Yojimboen said...

I’ve often wondered what was going on in Hitchcock’s mind - or Fonda’s for that matter - when they elected to do The Wrong Man. I think it’s the only Hitchcock film I’ve just seen once. The memory of its unrelieved depression has never inspired in me a need for a second viewing; and whatever the message was, I was out when Western Union called.

The Siren said...

Y., this may be heresy, but I think Hitchcock was generally superlative with a good script and still damn good with a middling one. But when his screenwriters had an off day, so did he. I thought the screenwriting for The Wrong Man was too dour, too preachy. I admired aspects of the movie but I did not love it. TWM isn't the second MWKTM, I do think it's good, but I've also never ranked it very high in the Hitchcock filmography and am kind of puzzled when people do. Frankly, I'd rather re-watch Saboteur.

X. Trapnel said...

Even Bernard Herrmann was off his stroke in TWM.

Trish said...

I've never watched "The Wrong Man" all the way through. I'm sure it's because I have never warmed to Henry Fonda.

My flawed Hitchcock pick is "Marnie". Hee...

The Siren said...

Marnie is messy...a real love/hate fest.

I adore Henry Fonda though.

And XT, the fact that I can't remember a note of Herrmann's score for TWM probably says it wasn't him at full power. I sure can remember most others.

Yojimboen said...

Re Hitchcock and writers:

John Michael Hayes, who wrote The Man Who Knew Too Much; The Trouble with Harry; To Catch a Thief & Rear Window, was once asked what was the worst part of working with Hitchcock.

He said, “The worst part was his distinct stinginess in being able to offer credit where credit was due. It was of paramount importance for him to be seen as a one-man show, but that just simply wasn't the truth…"

Francois Truffaut: "To my mind, Rear Window is your very best screenplay in all respects: the construction, the unity of inspiration, the wealth of details."

Alfred Hitchcock: "I was feeling very creative at the time, the batteries were well charged. John Michael Hayes is a radio writer and he wrote the dialogue. The killing presented something of a problem…"


So much for John Michael Hayes “radio writer”, who had already done four studio feature films before meeting Hitchcock.

X. Trapnel said...

Agreed, Trish; except for that single stunning shot of TH rinsing out her hair and the hunt and "Mr. Strutt," going on about her teeth, Marnie is something I'd rather not think of. The unintended humor (Connery's psychology books f'rinstance) is painful for a Hitchcock devotee.

DavidEhrenstein said...

Well I'm on the love side of Marnie. I alos love the wildly unloveable The Wrong Man because I was raised in Queens and took that subway every day to the city. Manny's lawyer ran for office and became quite an important political figure in New York.

We're told that Manny's wife eventually recovered. But Hitchcock shows us the superb Vera Miles in the pit of depressive Hell.

Trish said...

David, I'm on the love side of "Marnie" as well. I can't help but think that Hitch knew the sex psychology was wrong, but enjoyed it anyway. I know I do.

X., the hair rinse scene is fabulous, as is Diane Baker. She reminds me of so many bad girls in romance novels. Ahh yes, "Marnie" is a keeper....

gmoke said...

I don't know if "The Wrong Man" is a good film or a bad one but it is probably Hitchcock's most realistic depiction of crime and punishment and the process of law and order. It has none of the usual humor you find in his films and the kitchen sink pathos is very out of character for him. But, if that old story is true, it's probably the closest to Hitch's own psychology.

The Siren said...

Gmoke, I think Tom Shone has a point when he argues critics sometimes gravitate to Hitchcock movies that aren't particularly Hitchcockian. He says Vertigo, nowadays usually cited as Hitchcock's best movie, is quite atypical of Hitchcock's usual tight plotting, since what little mystery there is gets solved midway through the picture. Wrong Man is also highly praised and also not very typical; I completely agree with you that it's got a social-drama angle that is very unusual in Hitchcock, almost no humor and very little sex. I think it's a better movie than the second Man Who Knew Too Much but I enjoyed it only marginally more.

David E., I did like the New York depiction in The Wrong Man.

Trish and XT, the rape in Marnie is a big mid-movie conundrum. I want to see it on a big screen to get another look at its beauties and the things that struck me as just plain weird.

Y., I think there's a reason so many screenwriter memoirs have an edge of bitterness...Although some directors were better about giving credit than others.

In case anyone is wondering, after admitting to problems with three highly regarded Hitchcocks in a row (I'm not counting Vertigo, I love it), I'd list my five favorites, in order, as 1. Shadow of a Doubt 2. Strangers on a Train 3. Rear Window 4. Rebecca 5. North by Northwest. Vertigo would probably be number 6. No. 7 The Lady Vanishes, 8. Notorious, 9. Lifeboat (I don't care WHAT you say), 10. The 39 Steps, 11. The Man Who Knew Too Much (original), 12. Rope. That's as far as I'll go at the moment...

Why I seem to prefer my Hitch in b&w may be a topic for another day...

DavidEhrenstein said...

Marnie is "just plain weird" all the way through. Think of that opening shot. What are we looking at? A woman's handbag -- or a woman's handbag shot in such a way as to evoke a vagina?

And where is this train station with no trans, no crew and no passengers? We could eb in The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari for all we know. Amd the storm scene in the office is every bit as nightmarishly weird.

Hitch had LONGED for Grace Kelly to do the role. But Tippi is utterly magnificent.

Groggy Dundee said...

Nice piece. Rope is one of my favorite Hitchcocks. I'm also a big Strangers on a Train fan.

X. Trapnel said...

Siren, you don't care what We/I say re Lifeboat? Well, I'll say it anyway: I LOVE LIFEBOAT. an endlessly fascinating, unique, utterly riveting, brilliantly acted, beautiful, ingenious film. I CANNOT understand its low reputation.

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Yojimboen said...

“Lifeboat”, X? Lifeboat? Are we trying for the Contrarian Comment of the Week two Posts running? I suppose I could try to mount a spirited defense of Frenzy, but my heart wouldn’t be in it.

DavidEhrenstein said...

Mat you sound like a Neo-Conservative.

Mat said...
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Yojimboen said...

Mat – Before our hostess jumps in and takes a ruler to your knuckles (trust me, it stings!) we try to avoid two topics at this watering hole: religion and politics (or political philosophy); we talk about movies – preferably vintage movies and our love/hate relationships with them. For most of us that’s plenty.

Back to topic A

1) North by Northwest
For the way Eva Marie Saint blew out a match.

2) Vertigo
For Herrmann’s Scene d’Amour.

3) The Trouble with Harry
For its joyous simplicity and for Shirley MacLaine who never ever looked more beautiful.

4) The Lady Vanishes
For Margaret Lockwood, Dame May Whitty and Charters & Caldicott.

5) Shadow of a Doubt
For Miss Wright. Okay, and Joseph Cotten; but mostly Miss Wright.

6) To Catch a Thief
For the kiss in the hotel hallway.

7) The 39 Steps
For Madeleine Carroll and Peggy Ashcroft.

8) Saboteur
For Norman Lloyd and despite R***** ********.

9) Strangers on a Train
For Mr. Walker and Mr. Granger in that order.

10) Notorious
For Ben Hecht, I. Bergman; but mostly Claude Rains.

11) Psycho
For Simon Oakland selling that impossibly cumbersome explanation (added by the studio).

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Rachel said...

Well, I'm going to have to chime in and say that I love Lifeboat.Yes, it's got its glaring problems, but it's suspenseful, well-acted and stands apart from the rest of the Hitchcock canon and other films of the time.

As a kid, I used to get mad at the idea that Bankhead's character would ever go for Hodiak's, but now I just get amused at the way that particular bit of casting turns everything he says into sulky posturing. I just know that when they get ashore, he's going to wind up another notch in her bedpost.

In the interests of giving some love to Hitchcock movies that don't make my list of favorites:

Stage Fright, for Marlene Dietrich and Alastair Sim. I Confess for the way Montgomery Clift and Anne Baxter seem to be in two wildly different movies. Foreign Correspondent for the umbrellas, the windmill, Herbert Marshall, George Sanders as a good guy, and for one of the most laconic marriage proposals in cinema history.

X. Trapnel said...

Mat, why do you "privilige" objectivity? By what objective standard?

A neo-conservative, David? Yes, indeed, I loathe them myself, but plenty of lefties have thought likewise (and done worse: break those eggs; make those omelets. Except there was no omelet). Sorry, Siren; I know: NO POLITICS.

Y. Yes Lifeboat for:

1. Mary Anderson against the starry sky.
2. Hume Cronyn playing with her hair ribbon.
3. The supply ship bearing down on the boat.
4. The shadow of the sail passing across Walter Slezak's face.
5. The fish (who also had a bit part in Libeled Lady) mulling over the gustatory possibilites of the bracelet.
6. The haunting shot of Canada Lee saying the lord's prayer while the others in strange deep focus turn to look at him.
7. A fine performance from John Hodiak. Why was he reduced to Wendell Corey's love interest only a few years later. (Terrifying thought: my two best beloveds, Danielle D. and Margaret S. had the inexplicable Corey for a leading man.)

On the other hand, the amputation scene with Wm. Bendix nattering on about Al Magarulian seems to get longer with every viewing.

X. Trapnel said...

Rachel,

Foreign Correspondent is less than the sum of its (quite wonderful) parts. Two main problems: Joel McCrea's character is underdeveloped (he comes off as a one-dimensional Richard Harding Davis type action hero); more fatally the stiff, dull Larraine Day. I see this character as an extension of Godfrey Tearle's (or was it FDR?) clinging daughter in 39 Steps. If Joan Fontaine had played this part and the McCrae character been given more dimension this would have been top-drawer Hitch.

If only McCrae could have been the hero in Saboteur in stead of *o* *u**i***.

Trish said...

Can anyone explain to me what neo-conservatism is??? Living in a leftist country I've heard the phrase but just don't know... Out of respect for our hostess please use movie analogies.

X. Trapnel said...

Trish, neo-conservatism is a local disease that is quarentined here; better not to cross the cordon sanitaire.

Mat said...
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Yojimboen said...

Yo, X - “You wanna know my philosophy of life? Do it to him before he does it to you.”

Terry Malloy
(Budd Schulberg)

WV: reset

The Siren said...

Okey dokey.

Well, the Siren has never explicitly banned politics, just requested that people play nice and once or twice she's tried to head some hot-button issues off at the pass, given that all sorts of people with all sorts of views hang out here and if you want to talk about some raging national or international debate there is no shortage of places to do it.

Mat, I would address your objections to Rope, but the last line of your first comment has, frankly, scared me to death.

And I officially do not understand much of what has come up since.

So hey gang! You know what I can discuss?

LIFEBOAT. I *like* Lifeboat. I really do. I like Mary Anderson, I loooove Canada Lee, I think John Hodiak and Tallulah Bankhead have some chemistry going and Tallulah won the NY Film Critics Circle Best Actress award that year so I had some company at the time, although as I believe Yojimboen pointed out, part of my company may have been Bosley Crowther. I can live with that. Stopped clocks and all that sort of thing.

It's kind of analogous to Rope, in that there are technical limitations that I enjoy seeing Hitchcock surmount, and surmount them I believe he does. Can we agree that his cameo in that one is pretty clever?

I also very much like The 39 Steps (Donat is great in that, isn't he? He was almost always great), Stage Fright, Foreign Correspondent and Saboteur and I honestly thing Bob Cummings ain't bad in the latter. The trouble with Cummings is that he had no real physical menace, so any time he has to confront a bad guy you keep expecting him to say "Oh the hell with it, can't we just grab a beer?" Or at least I do.

Rachel said...

X,

Yes, I think you sum up Foreign Correspondent's problems pretty well. I really like McCrea and I enjoy the moments where the McCrea talent for righteous indignation can play off Marshall and Sanders, but his character doesn't quite gell for me, either. As for Laraine Day, I tend to forget she exists, even more than I forget Priscilla Lane exists. It's a bad sign for a movie heroine when most of her lines can be replaced with either "How could you?" or "How dare you!"

I'm not sure if McCrea could have saved some of Saboteur's more jingoistic patches, but he still would have been much better.

X. Trapnel said...

Mat, objectivity is a tool in making certain kinds (many actually) of judgments and I am in favor of reasoned arguments. If truth exists beyond human consciousness and value as an absolute, then philosophy and reason are helpless and hopeless word games insofar as they attempt to prove what is true for one must be true for all. I've never understood the claim of the absolute as anything other than that.
As for neo-conservatism, any political philosophy must be evaluated in terms of the application of its purported values to real, existing facts, not in the aethereal winds. With regard to democracy and the spreading thereof (in Iraq, for instance) neo-conservativism as shown itself an abject failure, hence wrong. So has Marxism with regard to justice, freedom, and productivity, and much else. The Marxists believed in history as an objective absolute: nothing wrong with killing millions if it brings about the perfect society.

X. Trapnel said...

One last political point (as if anyone cares): I don't believe that bringing democracy to Iraq in a spirit of idealism (however misguided) was ever--not for one moment--part of the calculations of Bushco in going to war.

X. Trapnel said...

Rachel,

Yes, Larraine Day is not one to inspire a line like "If you knew how much I love you, you'd faint."

I like McCrae too. I've never understood the comparison with Gary Cooper; they're utterly different

X. Trapnel said...

I like the nervy humor Bankhead brings to Lifeboat. Neither Bette Davis nor Katherine Hepburn who might have played this kind of character could have done it.

I have a fantasy of Canada Lee as Sam in Casablanca, played as Rick's equal. Oh well. He's great in Body and Soul, but who isn't (Anne Revere, maybe).

Yojimboen said...

All right X, you had one, so in fairness this is my final politico/philosophical comment: When I was about ten, I leap-frogged over cynicism and left it moaning in the grade-school playground; I sprinted past fatalism as a teenager, and nihilism has long-since disappeared from my rear-view mirror.

What am I now? It took me a while to figure it out: I think I’m your classic agnostic, dyslexic insomniac. (That’s someone who lies awake at night doubting the existence of a doG.)

Yojimboen said...

Chère Madame, from her memoirs (still IMO the best by any film actor): Tallulah wrote that she almost didn’t survive her encounter with Hitchcock. Sitting week after week in a mink coat under scorching lights gave her a case of pneumonia. The studio doctor declared her well after three days and sent her back to work. Surprise: It was too soon. She relapsed (temp 106° for two days) and almost died.
They paid her $75,000.

The Siren said...

Y., ha! I remember that! She was proud of that award though. Her memoirs were one of the first I read, because she was from Alabama (a very prominent family as I'm sure you know) and I was in search of anybody who made it out of Alabama and had fun doing it. I checked it out from the library and never had my own copy; I should. I don't remember that much of it, although I remember filming Lifeboat, John Barrymore trying to seduce her and one priceless line: "I was a hedonist before I knew what hedonism was."

X. Trapnel said...

Y, I think it was that eminent theologian Paul McCartney who reasoned that the good is simply God with an extra o (or somesuch). I'm afraid your insomniac cogitations might transmute this into dog doo.

Trish said...

Mea Culpa. I guess, for reasons I can't even begin to explain...

DavidEhrenstein said...

"My point is that no objective standard of morality exists. Do you think there is one?"

Yes.

DavidEhrenstein said...

"Since no one’s feelings are any more authoritative than anyone else’s, everyone’s judgments must be equally valid."

My feelings are utterly authoitative.

rcocean said...

Sorry, but I don't see ANY problems with "Lifeboat" Love Tallulah, darling, love Hodiak, love the whole thing - except for the silliness about Willie steering the lifeboat to a U-boat, but hey it was WW II. Even Hitch got criticized for not showing the German with Fangs.

Great Movie.

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rcocean said...

The thread is really about Granger, who just died, but no one really has much to say. Kinda says it all about his movie career.

He was one of those likable, good actors, who just didn't make an impression with me. Kinda like Don Ameche or C. Wilde.

I loved "Strangers on a Train" but its the Hitchcock direction and Walker that I remember.

X. Trapnel said...

Rcocean,

you've got it pretty much right on FG. What I gather from the obits is that after he tried the NY stage to learn some craft there was no return to Hollywood, nor did he go the way of mainstream television, so apart from his two great films (he's adequate in They Live by Night and rather less so in SOAT) he seems minor figure who might have been more. It might be unfair to compare him to a trained actor and altogehter bigger talent like Montgomery Clift but I think it might be revealing. They both tended to play passive, acted-upon characters, but one usually sensed in Clift at his best an inner strength or at least something ready to explode (both in From Here to Eternity), but I never see that in Granger. This is even less fair, but I'm thinking of a scene in Side Street where he's in the back seat of a car, out cold, and looking as blissful as a sleeping baby.

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X. Trapnel said...

Matt,

I'm a child of Amurrican pragmatism and an admirer of William ("Damn the Absolute!") James and will not place reason in the position vacated by doG (cue up some Erik Nordgren [Bergman's house composer]). I just don't see the neccesity of pure objectivity in chossing an action, nor do I believe that the moral sense derives from some pained inner weakness resulting in puffing Erskine Sanford-like indignation. Reason is a necessary tool and experience the most reliable standard.

Tonio Kruger said...

The murderer feels likewise.

Mat

So does the victim. And I've known a number of people who fall into either of those categories.

Tonio

Now, if you'll excuse me, Mr. Anthony, I believe you just dropped something down that sewer grate...

Tonio Kruger said...

It scares me too, Siren. It scares me because I can't come up with a reason why murder is objectively wrong.

Mat

The Golden Rule. The Hippocratic Oath. The expectation that not murdering people whenever I feel like it is part of the small price one pays for living in a civilized society. The notion that not killing people is a good way to survive being stalked by vengeful kinfolk.

One can generally finds such reasons if one wishes.

Tonio

P.S. Sorry if I went overboard. I once attended a memorial service for a young girl who had been murdered by her own step-father. Of all the questions that occurred to me that day, the reason why one would need to have an objective argument against murder was not one of them.

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gmoke said...

Talking about "Foreign Correspondent" and not mentioning Edmund Gwenn? I find that to be a violation of objectivity and a neo-conservative delusion.

Yes, to Lifeboat. Loved it since I first saw it on TV lo these many moons ago. And I will send some love to Henry Hull.

X. Trapnel said...

Mat,

My point is that experience shows us that life in the animal and human world strives to perpetuate itself and avoid or put off annihilation as long as it can. We humans, endowed with reason, infer from this a moral sense, as close to universal (objective?) as any that what preserves life is good what destroys it bad. Our living and well-being depend on the living and well-being of others. All very practical, even when we appeal to the materialist conception beloved of Marxists and evolutionary psycholgists that we're constantly seeking our own advantage, from reason, in the case of the first, or instinct in the second. The negative formulation, pretty much universal, is that societies condone killing (not murder) in individual and collective self-defense. "Objectivity" (these are not post-modern scare quotes) is a product of the mind rooted in human experience which comes down on the side of life.

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X. Trapnel said...

Oh yes, Edmund Gwenn is splendidly malign as against his usual self. Like Barry Fitzgerald in The Sea Wolf.

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X. Trapnel said...

The Silver Rule: What you don't like, don't do to others.("That is the Law. The rest is commentary."--Rabbi Akiva). Much superior and more practicable than the Golden (just try to imagine the GR as a sexual ethic).

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X. Trapnel said...

Well, I happen to know (don't ask me how)that survival is NOT just like chocolate ice cream, which I could live without, unlike, say, survival.

I see nothing fallacious in removing questions or morality from the realm of abstract reason and into nature which may neither first cause nor teleology apart from change ("whatever is begotten, born, and dies").

And Mr. Zimmerman's thought cuts no cane with me and if there is no truth outside of Eden (vas you dere, Bobby?) there are many truths.

"World is crazier and more of it than we think, / Incorrigably plural."--Louis MacNeice

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DavidEhrenstein said...

"Would you care to expand on that? What is this objective standard of morality?"

No I wouldn't "care to expand on that." Whenever anyone claims morality is impossible to divine I close up shop. I really can't take eqivocation. It's primary refuge of "Conservatives."

Philip and Brandon were wrong to kill David -- despite what Andre Gide might have to say about the matter.

In many ways Gide is the 'structuring abseince" of Rope. Everyone prattles about Nietszche but the murder in Rope is Gidean acte gratuit all the way.

DavidEhrenstein said...

Mat if you "can't come up with a reason why murder is objectively wrong" I really don't know what to say to you.

Wait I take that back. Murdering people is bad manners.

There -- how do you like that?

DavidEhrenstein said...

"People get away with murder every day, and, if I'm reading your standard correctly, murder is acceptable so long as one possesses the expertise not to get caught."

Nations get away with murder every day. Even as I post the United States is sending unmanned drones to bomb third world countries and kill unamrmed peasants.

Do you really have to have a "reason" to be convinced that's wrong?

The Siren said...

Mat, I am no closer to understanding any mental contortion that can arrive at "there’s nothing wrong, objectively speaking, with snuffing out a human life" than are Tonio K. or David E., although your dislike of Rope has become entirely comprehensible. Unless all this is really a smokescreen to cover your dislike of one-set real-time movies. And Joan Chandler.

David E.: "My feelings are utterly authoritative." Yes, yes they are. What is this sudden onslaught of perfect accord between the two of us, David? This marks something like the fourth or fifth time in a month. Any more and you will have to come to New York so I can take you to a Mitzi Gaynor movie.

Rachel, I also forget about Laraine Day and Priscilla Lane; in fact just remembering them makes me feel that I have never, but never been duly appreciative of Alida Valli in The Paradine Case (which I like more than I let on), not to mention Ann Todd.

And thank you to you and Roscean for the Lifeboat support. I think that part of what I like about that movie is that it's patriotic, but in a drily ironic, Hitchcockian way. At the time and to this day, people bring up Slezak's "superman" abilities, that he's the only passenger with his shit together. But that's only because he has an unfair advantage with his pills. The OWI materials on Lifeboat are especially interesting.

And the exigencies of the Nomad format meant I couldn't link to the whole of my Granger defense, but I think there was more to his lack of leading-man status than alleged lack of ability. His parts for Hitchcock are not "manly" and don't scream name-above-the-title; plus he was under contract to Samuel Goldwyn which caused him all sorts of trouble, career-wise.

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The Siren said...

Further to Deanna Durbin -- I don't believe I have yet seen IT'S A DATE, with Kay Francis and Deanna. Durbin still has some ardent fans out there and I wish Universal would release another set, as the four-disc one I have is the only one out there. There's several others I'd like to see. You know what would be a great compare-and-contrast? Jeanette Macdonald and Durbin. Two warbling sopranos, one with great comic timing, one with Ernst Lubitsch. Lubitsch probably decides it but Durbin is still easier to love on her own, I aver. Durbin could have done the Joan Chandler role in Rope, but they probably would have had her walk over to the piano and sing along with Farley Granger, and that really would throw the whole balance of the suspense out of whack. Does Granger lose it before or after Durbin sings "Vissi d'Arte"?

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DavidEhrenstein said...

"Moral indigation" isn't necessary to disapprove of the murder in Rope.

Alida Valli's long and multi-facted caterr is definitely in need of you serious attention, Siren. Sleznick thought he had "another Ingrid bergman" with her, so she got the delux launch with The Padadine Case She didn't win the public over the way Bergman had, but she was no Anna Sten either.

But just think of some her performances:The Third Man, The Spider's Strategem, Flesh of the Orchid, Suspiria. And that's just off the top of my head.

DavidEhrenstein said...

And leave us not forget Eyes Without a Face and Senso.

Criterion is coming out with a new DVD of the latter. Visconti had wanted Ingrid Bergman and marlon brando. But Valli and Granger are scarcely shoipped liver. Indeed Valli captures the heroine's bloody-mindedness in a key that bergman never played in. Likewise the suave narcissism of Granger wasn't Brando's strong suit.

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DavidEhrenstein said...

It's not a Zero Sum game, Mat. Murdering another human being isn't like serving them breakfast, mowing their lawn, or even stealing from their safe or running off with their spouse or spousal equivalent.

Do you really regard murder as an entirely neutral act?

O to put it another way, are you bucking to star as Rupert in a reamke of Rope?

The Siren said...

David, my Valli-loving credits are in order, as you know, but I still haven't braced myself for Suspiria. If I ever get another chance to run a night at TCM I am thinking I'll go with Alida, which would also include Farley.

Evidently, the subtle approach isn't working this morning chez Siren. Et alors...

Mat, I am not sure what's going on here. I don't know why you've mistaken the Siren's comments section for an extended high school philosophy seminar, but the connection between whatever the hell you're trying to discuss and Rope was always tenuous at best (Rope explicitly rejects the very maunderings in which you currently indulge, and thank goodness for that). And the relevance has now ceased to exist altogether. You're bothering XT. You're bothering Tonio, David Ehrenstein, and Yojimboen. Most of all, you are bothering ME.

If you have something to add regarding any of the some dozen movies mentioned in this thread, hell, if you have something to say about Robert Cummings, who is looking more alluring by the moment, knock yourself out.

Otherwise, you've been warned -- by me, and by the Mighty Wolcott. I only have one official house rule, but I also have a finite amount of patience.

Jeff Gee said...

Yes, I believe the point of diminishing returns has been reached. But, Mat, you know who would love to discuss this further with you? My ex-wife’s divorce attorney. Write me offline and I’ll send you his address, places he likes to hang out, some of his potentially useful food allergies, and so on. I’m sure you guys will hit it off.

Bob Cummings. Hell of an actor.

The Siren said...

Jeff, No one has mentioned Cummings in Dial M for Murder. I'm told you have to see that one in 3D to really get it, but I don't dislike it. I think Ray Milland is rather a fun sort of psychopath. And Cummings may achieve his best-ever onscreen chemistry with...

John Williams.

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DavidEhrenstein said...

Back in the 80's the Tiffany theater in L.A. sjwoed Dial M in 3-D. It was in the original two-projector format with intermissions for reel changes -- and it was a revelation. Pretty goo flat, it's astonishing in 3-d as it gave Hitch the opportunity to exlore visual designs that crop up in several of his other movies (Vertigo being the most obvious example) in truly fascinating ways.

It's a companion piece to Rope to a large degree as it's an apdatation of a stage play and takes place primarily in one room.

When the would-be killer is trying to do grace kelly in and her hand reaches right out of the screen and into the audience. . . . well there's nothing quite like that.

The Siren said...

But D. -- genuinely asking here -- is there anything else in the movie to equal that highly sexual attempted murder on the desk? In flat projection that is the highlight too, and the trouble is that there isn't too much else there. Although Williams really is fun, and his reactions to Cummings are often hilarious (as is the moment when he tells his underling not to go out with a handbag over his arm).

My brain recognizes Dial M as mediocre Hitchcock (still good, I'd say) but my heart gets something out of that one every time.

DavidEhrenstein said...

The attempted murder is the high point, but there's visual interest throughut the 3-d Dial M. In some ways it's like Michael Snow's Wavelength in this regard -- purevisual abstraction for tis own sake.

No, it's not Major Hitch. But it's a most interesting Minor one.

The Siren said...

"But it's a most interesting Minor one."

Yep, I agree.

Jeff Gee said...

I know everybody wishes Joel McCrea played the lead in Saboteur, but I thought Bob Cummings was fine in it. Unlike, say, Fred MacMurray, who has a very apparent (at this remove anyway) dark side even in The Egg & I, Bob has no edge at all. He seems like a wandered into the wrong movie and doesn’t like it there. It works for me, anyway.

I really like the idea that the (ex-USAF pilot) Bob Collins of “Love That Bob” is the same (USAF pilot) Bob Collins he plays in “You Came Along.” Even though he dies in “You Came Along.” Either a great joke, or LTB was way ahead of the pop culture curve, zombie-wise.

(At-May: I osted-pay the awyer-lay’s address-ay on the alk-tay ection-say of the ob-Bay ummings-Cay ikipedia-Way age-pay. Ood-gay Uck-lay!)

The Siren said...

"Unlike, say, Fred MacMurray, who has a very apparent (at this remove anyway) dark side even in The Egg & I, Bob has no edge at all. He seems like a wandered into the wrong movie and doesn’t like it there. It works for me, anyway."

Yeah, it kind of works for me too. In fact I am developing an unexpected affection for B-- C------s. Might he be this year's George Brent--a comments bete noire who suddenly becomes an unlikely mascot?

Trish said...

I'd read that Hitch was not happy about having to cast C******* in Saboteur, so I always wondered why he used him in Dial M...

Laura said...

I saw Dial M in 3D once, but it was prefaced by a Three Stooges 3D short. Although I hate the stooges, I felt like they made better use of the technology.

The Siren said...

Laura, I only hope Ivan G. Shreve sees that comment. In fact I shall run over to FB and point it out to him.

Hazel said...

The Agatha Christie with a similar plot to Lady on A Train is called 4.50 From Paddington which was published years after the film in 1957.

Laura said...

"I wish Universal would release another set, as the four-disc one I have is the only one out there."

You might like to know that as of late 2010 there are two Durbin DVD sets. The older set, the Sweetheart pack, has 6 films including LADY ON A TRAIN and IT STARTED WITH EVE.

A few months ago TCM released one of their "exclusive" sets which are only sold by TCM and their supplier Movies Unlimited. It has 5 films including BECAUSE OF HIM (reunited her with Charles Laughton).

There are still a few not out on DVD, including CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY (which I bought on Region 2) and one of my favorites, HIS BUTLER'S SISTER.

Best wishes and happy Durbin viewing!

Laura

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SteveHL said...

Siren, I don't think anyone else posted this; this is the text of Darrow's summation:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/

leoploeb/darrowclosing.html